foHRsight: HR, Leadership & the Future of Work

How Leaders Create Resilience Without Burning People Out with Jay Abbasi

• Mark Edgar and Naomi Titleman • Episode 186

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When pressure becomes constant, resilience can start to look a lot like suffering in silence.

Employees are told to adapt, stay positive and keep moving, while the conditions driving burnout often remain untouched. For HR leaders, the challenge is not simply helping people manage stress. It is creating workplaces where people can stay clear, connected and capable even when the demands are high.

In this episode, Naomi Titleman Colla speaks with Jay Abbasi about why resilience is not built by asking people to push harder. They explore how safety, focus and meaningful connection shape performance, why people struggle to access their best thinking when they feel threatened, and what emotionally intelligent leadership looks like in practice.

The conversation also offers a practical challenge for leaders: notice what is driving your own behaviour before attempting to understand someone else’s. From regulating before reacting to sharing vulnerability without becoming the victim of the situation, this episode offers grounded ways to lead more effectively under pressure.

About Our Guest

Jay Abbasi is a global keynote and TEDx speaker, coach and former Tesla leader who helps professionals perform under pressure without burning out. After leading national training programs for more than 1,000 Tesla employees, he has coached leaders at organizations including Google, Amazon, TikTok and Wells Fargo.

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